March 2012 Meeting

Beginner’s Digital Photography SIG
SIG Leader: John Krill #3160

NEW Room Science 131A: We have moved our meeting location from Science 127 to Science 131A. To repeat we will be meeting in Science 131A from now on. Science 131A is next door to Science 127. Clear?

Slide Shows

Showed some of my own photos from Saturday, March 3, 2012 Patriot’s Day Parade in Laguna Beach as well as photos I took in Laguna Canyon while a passenger on a city tram bus. I was able to get motion blur of the wire fence in the foreground while maintaining sharpness of the background. I just used a shutter speed of 250 of a second and focused on the background. It’s all hit or miss. You never know until you get back to the computer if you were successful. Of 6 or 7 photos I took this way only one was satisfactory to me.

This led to going over the Sea Gull photos I’m always taking down at the beach. For these photos I set the camera focusing method to continuous. Once you lock the focus on a subject the camera will automatically track the subject and keep it in focus. It takes practice and however much you try probably only 5% will ever be worth while. But that’s the beauty of digital. Take all the photos you want. It’s free. If they don’t work then just delete them.

Sending large image files via the Internet

I generally use to send photos over the Internet. Most e-mail applications will not let you send large files so apps like SendNow help save the day. I already reviewed some of the Internet Web sites that provide this type of service. You can read my review of these sites via the NOCCC Beginner’s Digital Photography SIG BLOG here:

Recording All Your Valuables With Your Digital Camera

I will be researching what we need to do in order to record all our personal or business valuables. This may include the proper way to photograph items, what detailed information is needed, and how and where to store this information.

This will be the primary subject for the next meeting.


I was going to cover the latest version of Picasa in the March meeting. This is still on the To Do list. I still think Picasa is one of the better applications for keeping track of all your digital photos. And it’s FREE.

Embedding Date/Time or GPS Information Onto Your Photos

This has been an ongoing question that still hasn’t got an answer. I will try over the next month to get everyone an answer to this riddle. The data is in the photo’s Metadata, the problem is using it. Wish me luck.

Will the Cellphone Replace the Point-and-Shoot Camera?

The cameras inside that latest iPhones have gotten much better. But that’s not why they may replace Point-and-Shoot cameras. The reason the iPhone is everything you can do with the photo AFTER you take the picture. What to send the baby picture to grandma? No problem. Want to put the baby picture online at Flickr or Facebook? No problem. Want to add it to a blog posting. No problem.

Now try doing any of the with you Point-and-Shoot camera. The only place it can go is the computer. You carry your computer everywhere you go? And once it’s in the computer how many steps are required to get that photo to grandma or up to Facebook?

iPhone Volunteer Needed

Anyone with an iPhone willing to give our SIG a short demonstration on using the camera in your phone?

Also – I’m Still Hoping That An Android Pad User Will Volunteer

I would like to demonstrate Adobe’s new Photoshop Touch App ( I will pay you to install the software App on your Android ($10.00). Any one interested?

Standard Stuff That Is Always In This Report

This report should be up on the SIG’s blog. I may go into greater detail and I will include screen shots as well.

If you have a special request for information regarding digital photography let me know. E-mail me using the address listed below.

Check out the SIG Blog for other information and maybe info on what we will discuss at the next meeting.

As always we will answer any and all questions.

If you have a special request for information regarding digital photography let me know. E-mail me using the address listed below.

We had 9 members at our SIG meeting.

See you at the next meeting.

Note: I am using a new Web location for the photos I take at the meeting. I now upload the photos I take to Microsoft SkyDrive. A link will be put here every month to the folder with that months photos.

SkyDrive Photos for the March 2012 Club Meeting:

PS: If you saw the actual link to the photos you would think it never ended. It’s the longest link I’ve ever had to deal with. Solution is the TinyURL web site. Give it a really long link and they give you a nice short one. That’s the link you see above.

SIG Blog:


Delivering Large Files Over The Internet

San Jucenito Mountains

View of Mt. San Jacinto From Highway Rest Stop

Large File Transfers

By John S. Krill NOCCC

Problem: Sending a large file or many files to a recipient. Many e-mail systems do not allow large files to be included or they limit the number of files included in an e-mail.

Solution: Web sites that will allow you to upload a large file where a recipient can then download the file.

This report is only for the free version of each service. All but Microsoft’s SkyDrive have upgraded services for a fee.

Note: All the services require that you sign up for the service.


Max File Size

# of Files

Storage Space

Time Limit

# of Downloads / File

50 MBytes

1 per Transfer


7 Days


Adobe’s Send Now

100 MBytes

1 per Transfer


7 Days


Microsoft’s SkyDrive

100 MBytes

No Limit

25 GBytes

No Limit

No Limit




2 Gbytes

No Limit



This Web site allows the transfer of one file at a time. The file size is limited to 50 Mbytes and the recipients have 7 days to download the file. If you have more than one file then you must repeat the process for each file. YouSendIt will e-mail each recipient that they have a files waiting for download. Once the download it complete the sender will be notified by e-mail that transfer is complete.

Web Address:

Pro: Easy to use. Many recipients.

Con: 50 Mbyte file size is to small. Only one file per transfer. Constant pop-up about their upgraded fee service. Constant e-mails requesting you sign up for an upgrade fee service.

Adobe’s SendNow

Adobe’s Send Now works in a similar way as YouSendIt but will allow for files of 100 Mbytes max. The service is easy to use. There is no constant requests to upgrade to a fee service. They leave that entirely up to you to decide.

Web Address:

Pro: Easy to use. 100 Mbyte file size. Many recipients.
Con: 1 file per transfer.

Microsoft Live SkyDrive

In order to use SkyDrive you must have either a Hotmail or Live e-mail account.

SkyDrive is online storage system that has the ability to allow others to view, modify, and/or download the files you have put online. You decide who has permission to do this by e-mail addresses. Once you allow someone access, via their e-mail address, you can notify them, via e-mail, of the address location of the files they need to download. There is no limit on the number of files the recipient can download or is there a time limit for accessing the files. At any time you can disable a persons permission to access your files.

Any type of file can be uploaded. They do provide a special Photos folder that makes it easy to view and download pictures.

Permission to get access to files is via each SkyDrive folder. For example you may have one folder where the entire world can view and download files and another folder where permission is limited to a few via their e-mail address.

I get the impression that Microsoft hasn’t decided what direction to go with SkyDrive.

Web Address: (Select Skydrive form the Menu bar.)

Pro: It’s free. 25 Gbytes of storage space. Creating folders, and uploading files was easy. No limit on the number of files a person can download. Uploading files is also an easy process. You can allow anyone access to your files or give only certain people, via their e-mail address, permission. You can create folders to isolate files in order to limit permissions.

Con: Though the basic system works there are parts of SkyDrive I couldn’t get to work. SkyDrive’s automated e-mail function seemed to work but an e-mail was NEVER sent. They have a system of giving your Messenger friends permission to access your files but that didn’t appear to work. There is no upgraded fee services. What you see is what you get.


This sites works from an application that you install on your computer. Dropbox creates a folder on your computer where you put files you want to transfer to another computer and the DropBox application will upload the files to it’s web site where they can be downloaded to another computer. I can’t tell you more because I didn’t have time to use it and really didn’t like the idea of DropBox controlling the upload of files. If they can control one folder then someone can get access to all your folders through DropBox. Every time someone tells me something can’t be done the next day it gets done.

Web Address:

Pro: Appears very easy to use. Get 2 Gbytes of online storage for files.

Con: Don’t like the idea that Dropbox controls the upload process. I’m old-school and this just doesn’t sit well with me. I couldn’t find any information on file size limits. They may have none. I just don’t know.

Conclusion: If transferring files is your only requirement then I would use Adobe’s SendNow. It just works. And it doesn’t get in your way.

I do like SkyDrive and have been using it for some time to share files and photos with others. Once I figure everything out or Microsoft fixes some of the functions then it will be an even more useful tool.